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- From: jkinsella@procd.com (Joe Kinsella)
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.java,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk
- Subject: Re: Will Java kill C++?
- Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 14:40:05 GMT
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- Mark Winter <markWinter@wintergroup.com> wrote:
-
- >Joe, the "evangelical" spirit with which you express the demise of
- >Smalltalk - first to C++ and now to Java, tells me you have more of a
- >"anything but Smalltalk" attitude than what the realities are in the
- >market place.
-
- Mark,
-
- You clearly misread my position. I have never said Java will cause
- the demise of C++ (please re-read my posts for clarification). But I
- HAVE implied Java will assist in the demise of Smalltalk.
-
- Certainly Smalltalk would have died with or without Java. But the
- hype and excitement surrounding Java is accelerating Smalltalk's
- demise. Take price as an example. A Smalltalk development system
- with required tools can cost anywhere between $5000-$20000 PER
- LICENSE! Do you think ANY language with this price point has a bright
- future? VC++ 4.0 is priced at $500; Java is free! Do you honestly
- believe Smalltalk can justify this cost?
-
- I think the term "evangelical" hardly captures my feelings about Java.
- Technically, I have a lukewarm opinion of Java. Its a nice language
- that eliminates much of the tediousness of C++ and provides very
- creative opportunities for Internet applications. What you mistake as
- "evangelical spirit" is merely my admiration at watching Sun make all
- the right moves with this product. Marketing is everything and Sun
- seems to know what they are doing!
-
- To get back to the topic of this thread--no, I don't think Java will
- kill C++. I think the Microsoft Active-X architecture will limit the
- penetration Java will make in at least the Windows/C++ market--thereby
- ensuring C++ remains the dominant language for years to come. But
- Java is here to stay, and I suspect you will see the weaker languages
- dying off in the next few years. I think Q1 earnings should provide
- some support to my supposition...
-
- Joe
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